Storlie Y-DNA Haplogroup History





Time: Last 400 years

Storlie, Thoen, Hovde, Grimsgaard farms

Every male's Y chromosome, when compared to hundreds of thousands of other men's Y chromosomes, tells a tale. By examining the number of mutations that accumulate in this otherwise highly stable chromosome, we can determine relatively accurately how many generations separate any two men from their common paternal line grandfather. My particular Y chromosome came from my father, who got it from his father, and so on. Thus, it came via a Storlie immigrant to Spring Grove, Minneota from Nes in Hallingdal in Norway. The town of Nesbyen, in Nes, is marked with an A in the top map on the left.
The Storlie farm near Nesbyen, is located next to the Thoen farm. When a Norwegian man moved from the farm on which he was born to a new farm, he took on the name of the new farm as his surname. Thus, the Storelie who is my paternal ancestor came from Thoen and was originally named Thoen. His paternal ancestors were Hovdes and Grimsgaards.

Time: 550 Years ago

Devegge-Dunvegan Saga

The Grimsgaards were neighbors to and descendants of the Devegges. Nes legend has it that the Devegges were descendants of "Clemet" and "Bela" Mary Mac Leon of Dunveggan (marked with an A on the second map on the left). Clemet was born in 1405 and Bela was born about 1415. Supposedly, Clemet was the son of the Earl of Argyl and he had to flee after he had killed a member of the prominant Fraser family in a duel. He moved originally to Harris, where he wished to marry his love Mary Mac Leon. They were prohibited by Mary's mother from marrying because Mary's mother belonged to the Fraser family. They fled to inland Norway, to Nesbyen where they had a family. The people of Nes are descendants of this couple many times over.


Dunvegan Castle

R1A1* Y-DNA User Match

Because every Y chromosome tells a tale, I decided to do a user match search that compared my Y chromosome with hundreds of thousands of other Y chromosome. The results quickly brought me back to the old legend. I share a common Y Chromosome haplotype with individuals who claim their descent from the Isle of Skye in Scotland with a time to most recent common ancestor of 12 to 13 generations.

Descendants of Isle of Skye

While this Dunvegan legend and family trees were interesting to me, it wasn't until after I had my Y chromosome genotyped and started seeing who in the world had the closest Y-DNA match to me that I realized that the legend was plausible and, in fact, a parsimonious explanation for the strange genotypic matchup similiarities with Nes within 12 generations, then the Isle of Skye about 12-18 generations, and then Norway and Viking territories again. Dunvegan castle is located on the Isle of Sky. Yes the Vikings certainly conquered this area, but the time to the most recent common ancestor with members of the Isle of Skye was long after the last Vikings.
As more individuals perform the yDNA testing, I will update the results. I am particularly interested in autosomal DNA matches of Nes people with Isle of Skye individuals to see if they show more similarity than those who do not claim ancestry from the Devegges. Now yDNA history.

Time: Approximately 1000 years ago

Vikings and the Isle of Skye

Below are my compiled results from 23andme and genebase. Images and text are primarily from my Genebase results.
More distant Y-DNA user matches reveal that those whose Y-DNA is most similar to my particular Y-DNA can trace (within the last 800 years) their paternal line back to Iceland, Norway, and Scotland. TMRCA (Time to Most Recent Common Ancestor) analysis suggests that Storlies (of Nes) share a common Viking-age grandfather with these individuals.

Viking Prayer from the 13th Warrior

Based on the results of my Y-DNA SNP Test, my Y-DNA Haplogroup is confirmed as Haplogroup R1A1*. 
More distant cousins are found in Eastern Europe.(Nes) Storlie very distant R1a Y-DNA cousins are Hindis, found primarily in Northern India. It may be that R1b represented an initial migration into Europe. This was followed by R1a that evolved into a Scandinavian R1A1*. On the other hand, some data published in a scholarly journal concludes that R1A1* evolved in India.

Time: approx 2500 Years ago: Hindu Origins of R1A1*

Estimated R1A distribution frequency about 1500 Current Era. (Source: 23andMe) Haplogroup R1a originated in the Near East or present-day Pakistan around 15,000 years ago. After sheltering in the Black Sea region during the Ice Age, men bearing the haplogroup began expanding northward into eastern Europe about 12,000 years ago.

Migration Map of Haplogroup R1a. Simplified migration map showing different haplogroups leading to R1A. Prior to receiving a few mutations in Scandinavia, my paternal line's Y-chromosome traced its way out of Africa roughly following the path above and described below.

About the Haplogroup Migration Map

Researchers are able to plot the migration path of our ancient paternal ancestors by examining the pattern of Y-DNA SNP markers found in "indigenous" populations from around the world. By determining the location where key Y-DNA SNP markers first arose and the approximate time that each Y-DNA SNP marker arose, researchers have been able to successfully plot the ancient migration patterns of man based on the pattern of SNPs found in their Y-DNA. SNP markers are often referred to as "time and date stamps" because each marker can be traced back to a particulartime and place in history. By testing the SNP markers in your own Y-DNA, you can determine your unique pattern of SNP markers. Your Y-DNA SNP markers allow you to confirm your Y-DNA Haplogroup and view the migration patterns of your own paternal ancestors.
Understanding the Haplogroup Migration Map. The Y-DNA Haplogroup migration map shows the place of origin of your paternal ancestors and the subsequent migration pattern of ensuing generations based on the unique pattern of SNPs found in your Y-DNA.

The arrows represent the geographical migration pattern of your paternal ancestors based on the pattern of SNP markers found in your Y-DNA. Each SNP marker that you carry can be traced back to the time and place that the marker first originated. By plotting each positive SNP marker from your Y-DNA SNP Backbone Panel against the time and place that the SNP marker was known to originate, the migration pattern of your ancient paternal ancestors can be determined. The overall migration pattern is determined by connecting each positive Y-DNA SNP marker. Click here to download a copy of the Y-DNA phylogenetic tree which shows in greater detail how each SNP marker in the Y-DNA is associated with various haplogroups.

Click here to explore the phylogenetic tree of human Y-DNA and see how your confirmed Y-DNA haplogroup is connected to other major haplogroups.

As indicated in the Map view, the Y-DNA haplogroups that are ancestral to your confirmed Y-DNA haplogroup appear in the following order:

Haplogroup R1a

Time: approx 10,000 years ago

Place: Eastern Europe

The founder of Haplogroup R1a lived 10,000 years ago in the Eurasian steppes north of the Black and Caspian Seas (the Ukraine or Southern Russia). It is associated with Kurgan culture and reflects an early Indo-European ethnicity. Kurgans were characteristic of Bronze Age nomadic peoples of the steppes, from the Altay Mountains to the Caucasus and Romania.

Today, Haplogroup R1a is found in the Slavic populations of Eastern Europe, Northern Central Asia and India. The highest frequency of this haplogroup is Eastern Europe with highest levels in Poland and Russia. It is also widespread in Turkic speaking populations and eastern European Fino-Ugric and Slavic speakers. 35% of all people in the Czech Republic belong to Haplogroup R1a.

Haplogroup R1a is directly linked to the spread of Indo-European languages, including English, French, German, Russian, Spanish, several Indian languages such as Bengali and Hindi.

Haplogroup R1a is associated with the putative Indo-Aryan invasion, with highest frequency Northern India. Haplogroup R1a can be found in Indians of diverse linguistic and geographic affiliation. It is found at high concentrations in Punjab, but also at a relatively high frequency (26%) in the Chenchu tribe, and is also present in 35% of the Hindi speaking population.

Haplogroup R

Time: approx 30,000 years ago

Place: Europe

Another important branch of Haplogroup P is Haplogroup R. Individuals belonging to Haplogroup R carry the distinct Haplogroup P marker M45, but are further distinguished by an additional marker in their Y-DNA called M173. The presence of the M173 marker is unique to all individuals who descended from this line and can be confirmed with SNP testing.

The man who founded Haplogroup R lived in North West Asia approximately 30,000 years ago. His descendents migrated into Europe and many regions of Europe.

Haplogroup R has several major sub-branches:

  • R1a, which is very common among the Slavic and Scandinavian populations;
  • R1b, which is associated with the Cro-Magnon people of western Europe; and
  • R2, which is found mainly in India.

Haplogroup P

Time: approx 35,000 years ago

Place: Northern Eurasia

Haplogroup P is a branch that stems from Haplogroup K. Individuals belonging to Haplogroup P carry the Y-DNA M9 marker of Haplogroup K, and are further characterized by an additional marker in their Y-DNA called M45. The presence of the M45 marker is unique to all individuals who descended from this line and can be confirmed with SNP testing.

This haplogroup arose approximately 40,000 years ago, north of the Hindu Kush, a mountain range in Afghanistan and northern areas of Pakistan that forms the westernmost extension of the Pamir Mountains. These ancestors migrated north of the Hindu Kush into Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan and southern Siberia.

Today, Haplogroup P is an ancient haplogroup which is seldom found as an undifferentiated Haplogroup (very few people today belong to Haplogroup P, most belong to the major branches which arose from descendents of Haplogroup P, including Haplogroups Q and R). Haplogroup P is significant because it is the direct ancestor of Haplogroups Q and R. Haplogroup Q is the haplogroup of the majority of indigenous peoples of the Americas and Haplogroup R is the founding haplogroup of a majority of Europeans. Haplogroup P can be found in low levels in India, Pakistan, China, and Tibet.

Haplogroup K

Time: approx 40,000 years ago

Place: Southwestern Asia

One of the most significant branches of Haplogroup F from the middle east is Haplogroup K. Haplogroup K is characterized by the M89 and M213 markers of Haplogroup F, but also carry an additional marker in the Y-DNA called M9. The presence of the M9 marker is unique to all individuals who descended from this line and can be confirmed with SNP testing.

This haplogroup is an important branch which first arose in the middle east approximately 40,000 years ago. These early ancestors migrated eastward towards the Pamir Mountains in southwestern Asia. The Pamir Mountains are formed by the junction of the Tian Shan, Karakoram, Kunlun, and Hindu Kush ranges. These mountains are centered in the Tajikistani region of Gorno-Badakhshan and are considered one of the world's highest mountains. The geography of the Pamir Mountains caused the descendents of Haplogroup K to split up and migrate in different routes, some into Asia, others into Europe and still others into India.

The majority of the people living in the world today trace their roots back to this haplogroup. Descendents of Haplogroup K are the patrilineal ancestors of most of the people living today in the Northern hemisphere, including most Europeans, many Indians, and almost all Asians. Haplogroups L to R are all descendents of Haplogroup K.

Today, the ancient undifferentiated Haplogroup K peoples are found mainly in the Middle East and Ethiopia. Its current existence in low levels in Ethiopia is due to back migration of Asian Y-chromosomes into sub-Saharan Africa thousands of years ago.

A subgroup of Haplogroup K is Haplogroup K2. Haplogroup K2 is present at a low levels throughout Africa, Asia and the Middle East. Thomas Jefferson is a famous member of Haplogroup K2.

Sub-groups (aka subclades) of Haplogroup K include K* and K1 to K5. These sub-groups are found at low frequencies in various parts of Africa, Eurasia, Australia and the South Pacific.

Haplogroup F

Time: approx 50,000 years ago

Place: Middle East

Descendents of the Haplogroup F branch are distinguished by markers in their Y-DNA called M89 and M213. The presence of the M89 and M213 markers are unique to all individuals who descended from this line and can be confirmed with SNP testing.

Haplogroup F is an important ancient haplogroup whose descendents are responsible for forming the majority of the civilizations in the world today. The founder of Haplogroup F lived 40,000 to 60,000 years ago in modern day Middle East and his descendents became the founders of Haplogroups G through to R. Descendents of Haplogroups G to R represent more than 90% of the world's current population.

Today, the original undifferentiated ancient Haplogroup F line is localized mainly to the Middle East. Descendents of Haplogroup F are almost absent in Sub-Saharan Africa, further supporting the theory that Haplogroup F formed shortly after its ancestors migrated out of Africa.

Haplogroup CR

Time: approx 55,000 years ago

Place: Northeast Africa

Individuals belonging to Haplogroup CR are distinguished by a marker in their Y-DNA called M168. The presence of this marker can be confirmed with SNP testing.

Haplogroup CR split off from haplogroup A 55,000 years ago, probably originating in North East Africa. This haplogroup is the root of all living human Y-DNA haplogroups except for haplogroup A and haplogroup B.

The last groups of people from this haplogroup eventually migrated out of Africa and populated around the world.

Haplogroup BR

Time: approx 60,000 years ago

Place: Northeast Africa

Individuals belonging to Haplogroup BR are distinguished by several markers in their Y-DNA: SRY10831.1 (SRY1532), M42, M94, and M139. The presence of these markers can be confirmed with SNP testing.

Haplogroup BR split off from haplogroup A 55,000 to 60,000 years ago, probably originating in North East Africa. This haplogroup is the root of all living human Y-DNA haplogroups except for haplogroup A.

Y-Chromsomal Adam

Time: Lived approx 100,000 years ago

Place: Africa

Y-Chromsomal Adam is the most recent common patrilineal ancestor (MRCA) of all humans living today. His Y-DNA was passed down from father to sons over the past 100,000 years and all males living today can trace their Y-DNA back to the common Y-DNA type of the Y-Chromosomal Adam. He lived approximately 100,000 years ago in what is now Ethiopia.

Today, the Y-DNA of Africans fall into one of several major Haplogroups: A and B. Each haplogroup is associated with a different ancestral lineage.

Phylogenetic Tree

This is the phylogenetic tree of all known human Y-DNA haplogroups that exist today. Scroll down to locate your confirmed Y-DNA haplogroup, or learn more about your Y-DNA haplogroup by switching to the other two tabs: Migration Map and About.

Our Y-DNA, which is passed down from a father to son, shows that all people living today shared a common male ancestor who lived in Africa over 100,000 years ago. He is often termed the "Y-Chromosomal Adam".

The Y-DNA phylogenetic tree has approximately 19 main branches "Y-DNA haplogroups" classified by the letters "A to R". Each Y-DNA haplogroup has many further sub-branches (subclades), classified by numbers and letters, i.e. R1b1a, R1b1b, R1b1c, etc. All people living today have descended from one of the main branches of the human Y-DNA phylogenetic tree.

Find your haplogroup on the tree and see how you are connected to all people living today on your paternal line. (Source: Genebase)

Special Credit to the sites from which I drew this information, sometimes verbatim:



Sorenson Molecular Genomics

Family Tree DNA